Fan Reaction:
Have to disagree with you, Hube, in regards to Tony's motivations for donning
the classic red and golds.
It was implied that the more sophisticated suits could possibly turn sentient
given the correct set of circumstances. Also, Tony's time stranded on the island
made him realize the value of a lower tech approach (or perhaps the limitations
of the higher tech armors possibly stifling his creative thought) to solving
problems. What's odd is how easily the sentient suit shredded the modular
suit a few issues prior. By Marvel time, Tony stopped using the classic
red and golds only a few years ago: a suit
which was strong enough to stand up to the Hulk
and most everything else walking the streets of the MU wearing spandex. I'd
argue that the classic red and golds
are on a par with the suits that followed in terms of strength and durability
but lack the bells and whistles of targeting computers, improved communications
and mobility, etc. The books have disputed this of course via Tony's thoughts
("...this is my most astonishing creation! Far better than the last! Makes
this old thing feel like a "57 deSoto") but the stories haven't really
shown that to be the case. Otherwise Iron Man
would have passed Thor level long ago. --
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Fan Reaction II:
I've been going over your site and love it. However, I wish to address the fact
of Tony switching to the Classic Red and Gold
suit over more sophisticated models of armor. Flip back a page and reread his
reaction when Jocasta
asked if she should prep the spare suit of identical armor that came to life.
Tony was terrified and rightly so. Granted it is not likely that his armor will
come to life again, but nevertheless Tony had just experienced the dark side of
hs technology and had a case of Technophobia. Jocasta and he both had the idea
of going back to the tried and true suit. The reasons were that it was the
longest running model of armor. All others have been transient by comparison.
While it wasnt as hi-octane as future models, Tony realized that its his brain
that makes Iron Man
more then the suit. A break from a super state of the art suit was needed for
Tony to get himself back together. To me, at least, it would have been
unrealistic to jump into a spare set of the armor that came to life after what
had happened and it would have been ludicrous to have built a new suit so soon.
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Hube Responds:
I understand the views about the Classic Red and
Golds; however, the red and silver suit (Silver
Centurion) and the #231
Armor (New Red and Golds) were, in essence, light
years ahead of the Classic Red and Golds.
Consider how far more advanced the #231 Armor
was over the Silver Centurion
(Firepower trashes the S.C.
-- Tony builds the #231 Armor
and trashes Firepower) and even how more advanced the S.C.
was over the Classic
Red and Golds. Overall, Dave Plunkert
above admits as much, and there are ample sources in the title that would back
this up.
Now, even though these two
suits were far more advanced than the Classic
Red and Golds, they are still way behind
the suit that became sentient -- or, at least they should be. And this doesn't
even take into account the Modular Armor,
the Retro (Crossing) Armor
and the Heroes Reborn (Prometheum) Armor
which all came after the #231 Armor.
No matter how you slice it, it still seems silly to me that Tony would go back several
generations of armor just out of some fear of "sentience" coming
about again. (Which is highly unlikely, since Y2K has passed and
this was cited as one of the factors leading to sentience!! This, and the very
unique situation of downloading a sentience like Jocasta,
which Tony could easily avoid.) Let's face it -- the ONLY reason the Classic
Red and Golds were brought back was for nostalgia.
To placate older fans. To show new fans who the Golden Avenger was for the
longest time. That's it. As a matter of logic, however, it just doesn't hold up.
But again, this is MY opinion! :)
Fan Reaction III:
I agree with you Hube, in regards to the donning of the classic Red
and Gold, hadn't Tony said in previous issues
that he did not want to wear that armor again, due to the fact that that was the
armor he was wearing when he crawled into the bottle. I believe it was in the
first Ghost story
arc. The Silver Centurion Armor
was being upgraded when Spymaster
and the Ghost
attacked. Rhodey wouldn't put on the Red and
Gold due to the burns he got from it before, so
Tony, hesitantly, put it on explaining all the bad memories that went with it.
Also, Tony is a man of technology, and he, more than anyone else, should know
that technology advances, so it doesn't make sense to me to take quite a few big
steps backwards by going to the classic red and gold. --
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