Avengers photos, trailers, rumors and news

[Iron YoJimBo]

http://screenrant.com/avengers-japanese-trailer-sandy-159331/

-couple neat little new clips for those who haven't seen, plus an appearance from a certain Iron Man support charater was a pleasant surprise!   
And you have to grin at the Japanese gentleman saying 'Aaavvvengers' 

As a twenty years + vet of Anime, it strangely sounded like coming home, lol I hope it goes well overseas. I think it'll do well in Japan, what with the Marvel anime from last year & Avengers looking like live action anime. 

[Mr_Fabulous]

People should really be paying attention to the Japanese poster along with the trailer because it basically underscores the apparent theme of the film and the philosophical approach of Marvel comics in general.



The importance of the people under the masks and their place in the composition as a "foundation" for the exalted, heroic identities. Are they heroes with feet of clay or are the masks the shell these characters need to hide behind to be who they truly are. The lineup is probably no accident either, to see this get overlooked as being a "floating heads" poster is beyond irritating when there's definitely a discussion worth having here.

[Roger A Ott II]

I love that poster!

[The IronJedi]

The lineup is probably no accident either, to see this get overlooked as being a "floating heads" poster is beyond irritating when there's definitely a discussion worth having here.

Ok. I'll bite. And just to get your goat, Mr. Fab. I go for the purely Hollywood cynicism and say the placement/prominence of the "floating heads" has to do more with the influence of the actor and his/her representatives/agents/management and contractual negotiations than anything else. 

Let's hear your take.

[IronManKyle]

That IS a great poster actually. And yes, as an anime fan too, I liked seeing that in the trailer. Doesnt come out in asia till August?  yikes! thought may was far off still..

[Chaos]

Both the trailer and poster are quite good. It's nice to get a good glimpse of the helicarrier too; definitely better than it looks in the comics.

[Cool Exec]

Explains well thought out theory

Good points.  I'm not crazy about "blind leading the blind" hero stories, so I hope they aren't going to far down that road--I like my heroes to be admirable.  But then again, Marvel has always been about flawed heroes who latch onto heroism and try to save the world even though they are unworthy.

It's like every great Bible story: "God, you don't want me: I can't speak well!", "You don't want me: I'm the smallest in my family which is the smallest in the country!", "You can't mean me!  I'm a virgin!" But they are called to serve anyway, and because they served even when they couldn't live up to the higher ideal they were dedicated to, that is how they become heroes.

[Chaos]

You know, I apologize if I'm the third or fourth person to gush over it, but I've scanned the thread and I think there's an element key to the theme of the film that is being overlooked. I've been keeping up with every clip released from the beginning, more or less 'observing' the imagery in some detached, objective way. I never really found my way 'in' to what Whedon is doing with The Avengers until one small moment in the second trailer.

1:10 in the second US trailer;

Loki (To what looks like Tony Stark): "How desperate are you-- that you call on such lost creatures to defend you?"

This is the key that unlocks all meaning for The Avengers. A definitive statement about the character of the series and what it means in popular culture. This isn't a Justice League, these aren't the paragons of humanity catching us when we fall. These are the lost and weary outcasts, desperate monsters fighting to prove something to themselves. They are not Dark Knights rising to one final challenge, they each exemplify a weakness in human nature, they're not there to tell us we should be better people. The language here, almost every line of dialogue, is priming us for their struggle. Unlike the newest (and horribly misguided) Spider-Man trailer or the Batman trailers of recent years, the theme isn't that of daring conflict with a existential threat. It's the idea that in acknowledging our mistakes, confronting our flaws and redeeming ourselves that we assert our right to exist. The Avengers are us, they have no idea how to save us because we have no idea how we can save ourselves.

"This is nothing we were ever trained for", "We're a time-bomb", "I don't play well with others", "Who would bring those people together?" - The justification in the plot is deceptively simplistic, SHIELD is shepherding cats; recruiting a bunch of tough-guys, throwing them at an invading force and hoping for the best. This is the culmination of a marketing endeavor years in the making- familiarizing ourselves with the ordinary people trapped in fantastic circumstances. The meta-movie plot being that our real life world is becoming this twisted, cosmic, comic-book reality and how these people have to become fiction (heroes) to survive it.

If they can't save us, you can be damn sure they'll Avenge us.

That's a very good post and i have to agree with everything you said (although I believe in the Japanese trailer it is Fury he's talking to who responds "you've made me quite desperate.") It's pretty clear in the trailers that the Avengers and Fury, aside from Black Widow, Hawkeye and a lesser extent Thor, all seem to have their own baggage they are dealing with.

[Roger A Ott II]

You know, I apologize if I'm the third or fourth person to gush over it, but I've scanned the thread and I think there's an element key to the theme of the film that is being overlooked. I've been keeping up with every clip released from the beginning, more or less 'observing' the imagery in some detached, objective way. I never really found my way 'in' to what Whedon is doing with The Avengers until one small moment in the second trailer.

1:10 in the second US trailer;

Loki (To what looks like Tony Stark): "How desperate are you-- that you call on such lost creatures to defend you?"

This is the key that unlocks all meaning for The Avengers. A definitive statement about the character of the series and what it means in popular culture. This isn't a Justice League, these aren't the paragons of humanity catching us when we fall. These are the lost and weary outcasts, desperate monsters fighting to prove something to themselves. They are not Dark Knights rising to one final challenge, they each exemplify a weakness in human nature, they're not there to tell us we should be better people. The language here, almost every line of dialogue, is priming us for their struggle. Unlike the newest (and horribly misguided) Spider-Man trailer or the Batman trailers of recent years, the theme isn't that of daring conflict with a existential threat. It's the idea that in acknowledging our mistakes, confronting our flaws and redeeming ourselves that we assert our right to exist. The Avengers are us, they have no idea how to save us because we have no idea how we can save ourselves.

"This is nothing we were ever trained for", "We're a time-bomb", "I don't play well with others", "Who would bring those people together?" - The justification in the plot is deceptively simplistic, SHIELD is shepherding cats; recruiting a bunch of tough-guys, throwing them at an invading force and hoping for the best. This is the culmination of a marketing endeavor years in the making- familiarizing ourselves with the ordinary people trapped in fantastic circumstances. The meta-movie plot being that our real life world is becoming this twisted, cosmic, comic-book reality and how these people have to become fiction (heroes) to survive it.

If they can't save us, you can be damn sure they'll Avenge us.

Absolutely! While I feel that current Marvel comics have lost a lot of the basis for what Stan Lee & Company built on from the very beginning, the movies seem to have found it and use it to make stories that we actually would care about.

[Chaos]

Absolutely! While I feel that current Marvel comics have lost a lot of the basis for what Stan Lee & Company built on from the very beginning, the movies seem to have found it and use it to make stories that we actually would care about.

It's actually quite sad that, in some cases, we can get far more out of a 2 hour movie than a monthly ongoing comic.

[Metal Head]

World premiere of the film happens April 11, 2012:

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/169891-marvels-the-avengers-world-premiere-set-for-april-11

In Hollywood, at the El Capitan Theatre. Wow! Not much time to get the film done, lol, but I think it's pretty close to finishing. Are you excited yet? I am! It's reminding me of that thrill leading up to Iron Man (08) and IM 2 (10).

heath

[Cool Exec]

You betcha' I'm excited.

And I guess this is a good time to share this vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Iv0GS-a04s&context=C4926573ADvjVQa1PpcFMBC3EPd1thhnK9KW_5w8a-LeMd-qNJWPY=

[Metal Head]

Plenty of new Avengers photos, apparently from inside the Helicarrier! Plus, costume designer on Cap's new threads:

http://screenrant.com/avengers-images-costume-designer-interview-sandy-160075/





heath

[averone]

Guys I hope you can help me, there are discussions about the new armor in avengers and whether its different than the upcoming bust from Sideshow Collectables

Mk. VI's exposed chest in Avengers:


Ref:



Has the armor been changed? To me the new Avengers armor is different looking. Im having a hard time digging out info on this!
What do you guys think?

[Metal Head]

I think that's the Mark VII at that point, in Avengers.

heath