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« on: September 09, 2008, 09:46:04 PM » |
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Hi all,
Marvel is reimagining for a short comicbook series set in the roaring 30's the titles are Spiderman,Daredevil,and Xmen called Marvel Noir,but no Iron Man,and its coming out in 2009.
Someone has to tell Marvel that they're missing the boat,by not including Iron Man in the series.
Just think Tony Stark is doing battle with German,and Russian spies,and is hurt in a sabotage attack,and has to save himself by creating his armor using 1930's tech remember this is armor is very primitive using vacumm tubes,and other electronic components that show a cross between Rocketeer,and a robotic construct.
Anybody got any thoughts, art concepts of what the armor would look like if Marvel would include our favorite shellhead.
Let the games begin
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Buck Rogers
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Iron Nomad
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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2008, 08:40:48 AM » |
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Nahh - too much IM would seriously kill off interest in the character at this point. I think we are barely treading water at this point.
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The IronJedi
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2008, 01:12:49 PM » |
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Going to have to respectfully disagree, Nomad. I think a Howard Hughes-esque Tony Stark in the Noir books would be great.
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Buck Rogers
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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2008, 06:02:04 PM » |
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That's the spirit jedi,
I'm glad you agree since Hughes is the model for Tony in the first place.
Any more takers lets see some art,and maybe if IMJ will allow a gallery of 1930's Iron Man art done by our artists to shame Marvel into doing the book by printing AI 74 0r 75 with stated gallery.
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Buck Rogers
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Agent 333
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2008, 07:25:23 PM » |
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The whole point of the Marvel Noir is that it's pulp, not superheroic. I'd love to see a business tycoon version of Stark who uses his money and influecence to fight crime on the side....
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Crimson Dynamonger
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2008, 08:29:36 PM » |
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...right before this announcement I came across some fanart of a pulp-ified Iron Man, if I ever come across it again I'll post it to the thread!
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Buck Rogers
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2008, 09:42:20 PM » |
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Crimsom,
Which site did you see fanart on,and please do submit artwork if you can find it.
The whole idea of this thread is encourage discussion,and having some depiction of Iron Man in 1930's style Armored suit would probably be great seeing on this thread or printed in the zine IMO.
As to Agent 333's comments that a business tycoon that fights crime on the side could work in the noir format I agree with that premise,just I need to see an image in order to visualize what would IM's armor look like in a pulp style,before we rally the members of this fine website to bombard Marvel with requests to add our beloved shellhead to the line up of Marvel Noir,hopefully before Iron Man 2 comes to the screen.
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Buck Rogers
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Mr_Fabulous
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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2008, 10:05:50 PM » |
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The whole point of the Marvel Noir is that it's pulp, not superheroic. I'd love to see a business tycoon version of Stark who uses his money and influecence to fight crime on the side....
Oh man, this. This would be the ideal Iron Man book for me and a 1930's captain of industry angle would only be even better. The only downside to the Marvel Noir angle is that since it's pre WWII, the villains are either going to be gangsters or nazis. But hey, if I get 1930's Daredevil out of it, it's worth treading old ground I guess. |
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Buck Rogers
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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2008, 03:26:40 PM » |
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This great I love the exchange of ideas from all of you.
Lets keep it coming,and find some art to show us what a 1930's captain of industry would look like along with his armored identity, therefore get creative in photoshop,pull fan art,whatever you have to stress your POV in images.
Also more discussion please.
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Buck Rogers
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The IronJedi
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2008, 05:21:39 PM » |
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Here's a quick rough of Mr. Stark I did this afternoon- sort of FDR meets Howard Hughes. TheRe's a reason for the disproportion between Tony's head and upper-body. I'll work on a pic of that and his alter-ego and post them soon.
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Buck Rogers
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« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2008, 09:03:06 PM » |
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Cool WIP there Jedi can't wait for more.
Anybody else?
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Ironghost
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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2008, 08:30:02 AM » |
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Hm. I can think of a bunch which have already had "What If's" done in the timeframe. Wolverine and Punisher come to mind. Dr Strange wouldn't require too much of a stretch to fit in, even with the vast mystic powers. Reed and Doom would fit in with some changes to their backgrounds, I mean Mad Scientist/Adventurers? It'd work. Human Torch might be a stretch, the Thing would be a bigger issue, and Sue Storm... I don't see it. (Heh.)
Any others?
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Mr_Fabulous
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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2008, 02:41:21 PM » |
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Any others?
Man, speaking only for myself, I'd love to see a period-style Black Panther series set in the 1920's-30's. Something that would kind of reverse the template of the great white hunter in the dark continent, cram it full of african mysticism, tribal politics and the legacy of british colonialism. But that's getting a little bit far off base and the mean-streets style of noir that they're working with now. PICTURE
Damn son. The wheelchair is a stroke of genius. It makes sense for the period that Tony probably wouldn't survive any invasive open-heart surgery, even if it were available at the time and an accident leaving him literally crippled is a great dramatic base for the character. The thing I've been wondering is how you'd be able to introduce Tony's more recognizable supporting cast. Strictly speaking, it was a different world then and Tony's best friend being a black helicopter pilot isn't going to cut it. Rhodey can still work and work well, but you'd have to write him around the prejudices of the time. Tony Stark's best friend and loyal...driver? His faithful nurse Pepper Potts? Someone help me out here. |
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Iron Nomad
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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2008, 07:00:50 PM » |
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To each his own but this one just doesn't fly with me. In my eyes it's nothing more than a mini "What if...?" where Marvel is looking to make a few more bucks off the hot commodity of the moment. Given the time period we shouldn't see much more than a MK I and quite honestly the stories will probably mirror the early TOS stuff.
Last year they did something awfully similar with the WW II book where IM was acting like Cap or was it Cap wearing a suit or MK I armor? It wasn't that good - IMO. While it's fun to imagine what other possibilities might exist for our heros in different times, IM in the 30's has me scratching my head. He won't be much more than a walking tin can.
I think one of the reasons shellhead has always been borderline believable was that the tech is always on the horizon. Going back to the 30's is too far for me.
I'd rather see another incarnation of IM 2099 or something set in a far distant future with super advanced armor that adapts to any situation.
Daredevil or Moon Knight in the '30's would be cool. That would be something I would buy.
Considering that I own every IM comic ever published, I want to maintian the completeness of my collection but the only way this one will make it to my shelf is in TPB.
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Agent 333
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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2008, 07:21:03 PM » |
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I think people seem to be missing my point. No powers means no armor. At best, he has a flak jacket or something similar. The "Iron Man" would just be a nickname, probably given to him some sensationalist newspaper or something. A noir verison of Tony Stark wouldn't go around beating up criminals, but rather using his influence to make their very existence more difficult. He might well have Happy (and/or Rhodey) do what dirty work is necessary.
We may well end up with an Iron Man version the second go around (if the first set does well enough you know it'll happen).
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