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« on: January 11, 2010, 12:02:23 PM »

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/43583

How Jeff Zucker still has a job, I don't know!

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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2010, 02:12:27 PM »

Another L&O?  They jumped the shark a decade ago.  I'd rather watch Leno than that.

As for Zucker?  Colossal screwup on his part, and it's going to cost him major money.  Leno might be understanding, but I bet both O'Brian and Leno both will have his rear on a platter before this is over.

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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2010, 12:40:16 PM »

http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/conan-obrien-resigning-tonight-show/

Conan puts NBC on notice!  He could quit, though and I doubt NBC will care if he goes to Fox.  They won't be stuck paying him every year even if they take him off the air (yes, that's in his contract--if his ratings sucked and NBC got rid of him, they'd still have to pay him).

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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2010, 07:04:08 AM »

But if Conan quits, that's all moot?  I can't believe he'd do it and mess up a good payout.

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« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2010, 08:35:47 AM »

Zucker strikes back:

http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/jeff-zucker-threatens-to-ice-conan-ill-keep-you-off-the-air-for-3-12-years/

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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2010, 09:04:58 AM »

F NBC, if Conan doesn't wanna do the 12:05 show, let him go so he can do his own show and be happy.  No matter how NBC stands, it's clear they handled it just about as horrible as possible.
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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2010, 09:26:59 AM »

Jeff Zucker and NBC have been in the toilet for years.  MSNBC is a partisan joke and CNBC is the only decent thing they have, channel-wise.  Give me a break!  Never should've moved Leno in the first place.

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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2010, 06:45:54 AM »

Never should've moved Leno in the first place.

That would have been the sane alternative.  Unfortunately, no one did that.
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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2010, 07:16:41 AM »

http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/jeff-zucker-threatens-to-ice-conan-ill-keep-you-off-the-air-for-3-12-years/

I do believe Conan is leaving (BOOOOOOO!) and will pocket a LOT of money.  Is that Fox TV calling?!

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« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2010, 11:34:05 AM »

http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/jeff-zucker-threatens-to-ice-conan-ill-keep-you-off-the-air-for-3-12-years/

This is definitely fluid: NBC wants a resolution by the end of today (1/15/10), but there's still the negotiations of a settlement for Conan, though his reps STILL want him to stay as host.  It was in 2004 this mess began when Jeff Zucker said Conan would take over from Jay in 2009 on The Tonight Show and Jay would retire.  I think Conan was considering jumping ship, or using that as leverage to get the show.

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« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2010, 08:01:55 PM »

I could be wrong, but I remember about a year or two ago Jay was talking about staying and in that scenario Conan would jump ship.  Isn't that why they gave Jay his show, to have the best of both worlds.

Zucker = Douchebag.
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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2010, 12:25:02 AM »

I like Leno, but Conan has my vote here.  There's no reason he should be punished for Leno's show tanking.  My take is if people wanted to see Leno so bad, they would have watched his show which is on at a time that is more accessible time for viewers.  Besides, how long does NBC expect Leno to be in business?  He might decide to retire in the next 2-3 years after a 15 year career.  Also Leno is going to be carrying some baggage when he returns to the Tonight Show.  There are going to be a good number of bitter Conan fans as well as average viewers who feel Conan was treated unfairly and refuse to watch.  The ratings may be high for the first week of shows, but I expect they will soon drop.       

I know Leno never wanted to leave the Tonight Show, but he agreed and that's that.  He should have stepped aside and saved everybody from this humiliation.  Conan is a great host and he deserves the Tonight Show for many years to come.     
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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2010, 10:16:11 AM »

I agree, Leno should have said, ya know what NBC I had my run let Conan keep it.  Then, it would've been up to Conan to keep the show going strong.  I understand where everyone is coming from in the situation, but NBC screwed up so bad on so many different levels. 

Here's to hoping Conan goes to Fox and destroys Leno in the ratings.

Just a side note, any watch Fallon's show...I never thought I'd say this but it's actually pretty funny.
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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2010, 01:39:32 PM »

Leno on Oprah:

http://watching-tv.ew.com/2010/01/28/jay-leno-oprah-winfrey/?xid=email-top25-today-Jay+Leno+on+%26%23039%3BOprah%26%23039%3B%3A+Admits+to+lying%2C+ridicules+Conan%26%23039%3Bs+%26%23039%3BTonight+Show%26%23039%3B%3A+This+is+damage+control%3F

Sheesh, this whole thing was a mess.  They should've kept everything the same and not messed with it.  I guess NBC was worried Conan was jumping ship in 03/04, so they did this whole thing.

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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2010, 02:17:57 PM »

While I don't think Leno is necessarily the bad guy in this, it's tough to like him after watching his Oprah interview.
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